the creation vs. evolution debate before the creation vs. evolution debate was cool…

bill nye the science guy or bill maher the t.v. guy weren’t the first to document or set up a debate the creation museum – I was, my wife was, a project we made into a book and film was… I’ll add links to the 4 videos below.

creation vs. evolution – the debate rages on and the project I collaborated on with my wife, a year at the wheel (http://www.usaodd.com ) was the first to cover and document the creation museum and even better, we prompted and pushed a virtual debate between prominent lawyer for the american atheist, edwin kagin and mark looy, co-founder of the creation museum.

new media, struck again and we scooped the big guys… this is just another illustration of how progressive the underground arts are, how under appreciated and underpaid yet, such a huge influence in the media and the culture that shuns the underground.

not complaining about bill maher or bill nye, just taking my credit for being the first to put a flag down in a debate with the sad sacks of shit at the creation museum.

ok, where was I… oh yea, so… way before the bill nye and ken ham debate, before bill maher’s movie – amy & I went to the creation museum to try and make a debate happen… we were looking for prominent american atheist lawyer, edward kagin to debate ken ham… the creation museum wasn’t into it… in the four videos I’m posting you’ll see a sort-of debate… kagin responds to the museum as he reviews the footage we shot of ken hams partner and co founder of the museum mark loot & their scientist dr. david mention.

here are links to the 4 videos I considered a virtual debate, in them edwin kagin reviews the footage I shot at the creation museum and debates with the video screen…

pt.1 – creation museum vs. reason debate… http://youtu.be/Sr4Hrkoeczg

pt.2 – creation museum vs. reason debate… http://youtu.be/JdwfFk4Peyk

pt.3 – creation museum vs. reason debate… http://youtu.be/f5zoOVr1iRI

pt.4 – creation museum vs. reason debate… http://youtu.be/O5dZBl2JvXg

you can find out more about the book and movie that was born of this yearlong road trip here: http://www.usaodd.com/

you can see the creation vs. evolution videos that became part of out online document of over 150 vidoe shorts we shot, edited and uploaded from the road, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ccu9YoDtc – creation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uAUI5SPFHk – kagin

* the videos I’m posting here today, were originally posted on-line over 5 years ago… we posted them to a site that has since gone out of style and business.

** sorry the videos aren’t the best quality, they were edited and originally uploaded over 5 years ago, when online video was super small and not up to todays standards… I also edited these videos on a lap top, on a dash board as amy drove across country – so give me a fucking break.

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