you don’t make peace with your past, you make war with your past – you make peace with your future.

you don’t make peace with your past, you make war with your past – you make peace with your future.
The only thing Harley did wrong was not bringing an UZI to that show.
The John Joseph vs. Harley issue is a class war.
More times than not you have upper middle class ass hats lifting from the gutter – inspired and slimy they do all they can to look the part. Once they sound like the street thug they had the hots for, they cut that same dirtbag loose.
Usually without consequence or compensation.
I’m glad Harley struck back.
This is what happens when you use/abuse the self trained, free in mind and body and what those who ain’t would call unstable artist, for profit and gain. Maybe I should say this is what should happen more often.
When will John Joseph take responsibility for his failure in this stabbing deal? His lack of action, his lack of compassion for his one time band mate.
I feel if you’re in a situation like the cro-mags are in, a creative collaboration of sorts, you MUST work it out. really, you create a masterpiece ( my wife’s words and I sorta agree)  like age of quarrel, something so important to so many, you must work it out.
and or, deal with the crazy artist kid glove like or accept they might try to kill you.
I for one sympathize with Harley and hate the upper middle class punks who have turned almost every underground creation into something safe and sellable.
I for one would like to see John Joseph taken to task in the court of public opinion – or the court of knives and guns – either way – the mother fucker should be held accountable for not being man enough to make good with his other band members. creation over money is a golden rule – break that and get what you deserve.
Before you start whining – take into consideration the zipcode you probably drive really fast thru – the one you ain’t from – the one where lack of resources demands brute force.
Without a lawyer and or cash a knife is about all you have to get the justice you feel deserving of.
I really hope Harley get’s a break on this deal.
This here is a great example of a Harley fucking:
the original:
a great harley interview from the old days – thanx winnie:

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  1. Alexa Poli says:

    kudos! when is that prick gonna get what he deserves? he’s been screwing people over as long as i’ve known him, about 30 years. he continually scams others and he even cheated on his own brother. when are people gonna wake up to the fact that he doesn’t practise what he preaches? If it turns out that harley went there with murder on his mind, I dont blame him. her just stabbed the wrong guy.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Very good take on it! I just don’t like the fact that John is making money off songs harley wrote! I know it is the music biz ness!

  3. Anonymous says:

    all this class war crap to justify stabbing people in the back? this not hardcore at all, is madness and cowardice, fuck you and all your crap, where the fuck do you see class war? This is just music nothing else, the real class war are done by activist who risk jail in direct action every single day worldwide, I write from italy and here we have activist charged with 10 year of jail for the 2001 riots in genova, this is fucking class war not a psycho ex member of a band stabbing an innocent dude in the back. You are out of this world, plain and simple.

    Alex from Italy

  4. shanebugbee says:

    alex – you might be out of touch… I say this because of your comment “This is just music nothing else” – you are out of touch/out of line.

    for me – art is everything… it is the cure, it is the message, it is the moment, it is the motivation and the truest of all teachers.

    alex, is there not a bar code on the back of the cro-mags recordings?
    is there not a price tag on their mp3’s thru itunes? does apple not profit?

    artists are poor – the middle man is not.
    artists fighting other artists is a class war for if we didn’t need to grovel over our creations we wouldn’t be here watching our creative brethren tear themselves apart… would we?

    John Joseph and Paris and the orig band need to man up and act appropriate in the face of greed and power and the need to pay the
    rent.

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